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Comments and stories on U.S. survey foot

Friday, December 27, 2019   (3 Comments)
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Comments and stories on U.S. survey foot

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Michael L. Dennis, PhD, RLS, PE - Geodesist and SPCS2022 Project Manager - NOAA/NOS/National Geodetic Survey
From Oct. 30: This item has two purposes, and is also going to a large number of people who have expressed interest in this topic (usually to me directly), as well as several NGS colleagues. Everyone should feel free to share this email with anyone who they think would be interested. We realize that some of the people receiving this message are not in favor of the change. All input is valued, regardless of your stance on any part of standardizing the foot definition after 2022.

  1. The Federal Register Notice (FRN) on deprecating the U.S. survey foot can be found at The deadline for public comment is Dec 2, and it is open to all. Your input will help in determining the most effective way to implement the change. All comments are welcome, including whether it should simply be called the “foot” after 2022 (i.e., dropping the word “international” from the name). You can provide your comments through the FRN web page above.
  2. We also are soliciting any “horror stories” that you’re willing to share about mixing up of the two types of feet, which you can email to me (along with including them in FRN feedback, if you’d like) at Stories provided to me within the next few days could be featured in an Associated Press article about the U.S. survey foot. Each can just be a few sentences that gives important details like the type of project and the impact of the error (including cost, if known). Anything is helpful, even if it doesn’t make it into the AP article. 

Republished from December 26, 2019 NSPS News and Views.


Robert S. McClintock Sr. says...
Posted Tuesday, February 11, 2020
During the meeting in New Braunfels, it was mentioned that this would be problematic insomuch as in referencing larger boundaries and alignments. In past projects I was involved in Alaska, significant differences were encountered in converting International Feet to US Survey feet and some problems in matching or better said "best fit" were experienced.Albeit only only the longer baselines. I agree with the majority, if we need to change , let's go with the rest of the planet and go metric and be done with it. After all, it's just numbers.....
Brad Litteken says...
Posted Friday, January 3, 2020
Personally, If we are going to have to change and then convert historical records I would rather just go straight to the Meter. That's what all the grids, geoids, gps, gnss, et. are all built on. With all the datum changes, etc. lets get all of this over with ONCE. Not to mention the fact that to change Texas officially would take an amendment to the natural resources code which (correct me if I'm wrong) requires the Texas legislature. Don't want to have to go back and change it all again. My $0.02
Lester C. Johnson says...
Posted Friday, December 27, 2019
It becomes apparent as to the use of the word deprecation by looking at this definition from Wikipedia, "In several fields, deprecation is the discouragement of use of some terminology, feature, design, or practice, typically because it has been superseded or is no longer considered efficient or safe, without completely removing it or prohibiting its use."

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